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Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 09:29:00 - [1] - Quote all of these cries of "those changes will kill w-space" sound exactly like "CCP, if you change industry LITERALLY EVERYONE in highsec will unsubscribe" Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 09:46:00 - [2] - Quote King Fu Hostile wrote: Except the industry changes actually have something to do with EVE Online, and not just some irrelevant API stats. if they were irrelevant, people wouldn't have been bitching and moaning about the change for 22 pages Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 10:33:00 - [3] - Quote John Caldr wrote: Yep, WE cant know how many capitals they have logged in the system waiting for us and if we were spotted by the cloaked scout so they can just avoid farming or counter-drop us. So bears have full advantage of unknown. how does having NPC kill counts on the API help you avoid getting counter-dropped? Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 12:42:00 - [4] - Quote John Caldr wrote: Instead of pulling numbers straight out of your posterior, how about you actually provide numbers based on fact? None of this "yeah well we're killing 500b a month and if I multiply that by the two thumbs on my hands I get to 1T, times people farming this makes 5T, and if we assume that that number will triple due to the changes, we'll arrive at 15T ISK injected into the economy each month" crap. Remember that only the stuff you can sell to NPCs is injecting ISK into the economy; nanoribbons are sold to players, so the ISK only changes hands and isn't injected. Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 13:04:00 - [5] - Quote John Caldr wrote: King Fu Hostile wrote: Trolling attempt You know how to use killboard and multiplication tables, isnt it. I'll just ignore your next posts from this moment. Well yes, that seems to be your preferred tactic when people start calling you out over the basis of your figures. John Caldr wrote: We dont mind to use ingame tool with the same data. Login traps are legit, white PVP tactics at EVE ATM Sure. Except you can't have an ingame tool for it, because the current design prohibits it. If you want to rail against the design, do that. Don't rail against fixing an oversight inthe API. John Caldr wrote: Since there is no such fix, farmers DO go on rampage, isnt it. Seems you miss the messages about us rolling 50-70 statics everyday. They might be going on a farming rampage, but you still haven't shown any credible numbers (the only ones you have posted come from frankly ridiculous assumptions that you've made based in no way on reality). Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 13:30:00 - [6] - Quote Two step wrote: I would estimate the real number currently at over 30 Trillion per month, and that is with the giant drop in melted nanoribbons. Which NPCs can I sell nanoribbons to? (If the answer is "none", then it's not an ISK faucet.) Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:03:00 - [7] - Quote Def Monk wrote: I think he's attempting to say that, regardless of whether it's a faucet or not, the money changing hands in a (likely) flooded market post change will cause the prices of them to plummet. This then affects lower-end WH profits significantly, and will continue to drive the price of T3's lower, which are already too cheap as is. And I'll not give my opinion on that, because I don't do industry. However, John Caldr suggested that increases in farming WHs will open up an ISK faucet to the tune of somewhere between 10 and 60 trillion ISK per month, and I'm going to call bullshit on that (without him also providing even a remotely credible basis for those figures). Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:58:00 - [8] - Quote Andski wrote: yes clearly 1-2 hour/week "farmers" staging out of a carrier are the ones who are utterly destroying the price of nanoribbons for the organized groups that totally don't do a lot more farming than they do I like how he has no response to us calling his bullshit so he ignores it because maybe that'll make the evil goones go away Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2014.05.08 09:44:00 - [9] - Quote John Caldr wrote: You're not allowed to have an opinion because we killed you in that WH that one day Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2014.05.09 11:01:00 - [10] - Quote RudinV wrote: this peeps clear anom in 10 minutes max, if they are good enough it takes them 1 siege. Its almost impossible to catch them if u dont know this api data It must be absolutely, not just almost, impossible for people to die in K-space then. I mean, they have immediate local, and most of the rats don't even scram. Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.

Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2014.05.10 08:14:00 - [11] - Quote Andiedeath wrote: I understand the reasoning (e.g. its a sandbox) but this will basically KILL PVPer population in wormhole space as it just makes it even more difficult for people to find fights. I would say most of those people wanting it removed are carebears that choose to live in dangerous space but just want another reason not to have look at their computer screen. I understand the reasoning, but making production viable more than two jumps out of jita will basically KILL industrialist population in highsec as it just makes it even more difficult for people to compete with null. I would say most of those people wanting build slot limits to be removed are carebears that choose to live in dangerous space but just want another reason not to have to look at their computer screen. Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 102	Posted - 2014.05.13 08:03:00 - [12] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Thanks for pretending to listen to us and then doing what you were going to do anyway. Cry me a river. This whole discussion started under the premise that, and I quote, "you will have a damn hard time convincing me of not doing [the removal]." Yet the only two arguments against it were "it will increase inflation", which in itself would be a good reason if it had been substantiated with figures that had any basis in fact instead of being those that John Caldr pulled out of his ass; and "it will make it harder for us to gank carebears", which isn't really that convincing since you could ******* scout your chains instead of waiting for some automated tool to send you a text to your phone. Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 102	Posted - 2014.05.13 08:07:00 - [13] - Quote Shilalasar wrote: And you are wondering about the low CSM voting turnout? nobody is wondering about the low CSM voting turnout, considering that last year CCP sent a global evemail about the elections and this time didn't it's reasonable to expect turnout to be lower Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 102	Posted - 2014.05.13 13:00:00 - [14] - Quote Meytal wrote: Solitary Pal wrote: (Break-a-wish guy) Break-a-Wish isn't known in W-space. But School of Applied Knowledge is? Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 102	Posted - 2014.05.13 15:41:00 - [15] - Quote Meytal wrote: Even if this was my spaceships character, I've seen more noob corp pilots in W-space than I've seen Goons in W-space, and they give just about as much of a fight. So, yeah. SAK in particular is not a stranger to W-space. That's odd, there's been a large thread over on the WH forum about how Goonswarm had put up a fight. Maybe you should look more closely? (I'll also accept you posting on your main instead.) Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.
Enaris Kerle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 103	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:17:00 - [16] - Quote Meytal wrote: You are presuming that Goons put up more of a fight than others or fight more than others. Because it's Goons it makes news. Heck, it's news when ANY null entity fights in W-space. When things become commonplace, it's no longer "news". If SAK fighting in W-space is no longer news, I'm sure you can point me to a zkillboard link where a SAK fleet fights another WH group. (Or you could post on your main.) Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm.

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